Veggie Emulsifier Review & Comparision 29


Control batch viscosity.

Control batch viscosity.

I promised we would make test batches with the Veggie Emulsifier and compare it to the Emulsifying Wax. Today we’ll share the results of our tests. We made the comparison batches using the Granny’s Favorite Lotion recipe. Instead of using Golden Jojoba, we used Macadamia Nut Oil.

When first opening the jar the Veggie Emulsifier smells a bit like celery, but we did find the odor dissipated when used in a lotion. The scent does not interfere with any level of fragrance usage.

Veggie Emulsifier Test Batch 1.

Veggie Emulsifier Test Batch 1.

We made a total of three test batches. Here are our results:

The first batch was our control batch made with 3% Emulsifying Wax. This batch helped us to ensure we would have the lotions match with different emulsifiers.

Our second batch of lotion was made with 3% Veggie Emulsifier. This lotion did completely emulsify, but it was very thin.

Veggie Emulsifier Test Batch 2.

Veggie Emulsifier Test Batch 2.

We altered the amount of Veggie Emulsifier by increasing the amount 6% and decreasing the water by 3%. This time, the lotion was comparable in viscosity to the control batch.

Recipe Variations in Percentages:

Control Recipe made with Emulsifying Wax:
3% Liquid Glycerin
3% Stearic Acid
3% Emulsifying Wax
15% Macadamia Nut Oil
75% water
0.5% Germaben II
0.5% Fragrance Oil of Choice
First Test Recipe made with Veggie Emulsifier:
3% Liquid Glycerin
3% Stearic Acid
3% Veggie Emulsifier
15% Macadamia Nut Oil
75% water
0.5% Germaben II
0.5% Fragrance Oil of Choice
Second Test Recipe made with Veggie Emulsifier
3% Liquid Glycerin
3% Stearic Acid
6% Veggie Emulsifier
15% Macadamia Nut Oil
72% water
0.5% Germaben II
0.5% Fragrance Oil of Choice

Our findings are that while the Veggie Emulsifier will emulsify a lotion when used at the same rates as the Emulsify Wax, the resulting lotion will be thinner. You can easily solve this problem by increasing the Veggie Emulsifier or by using Stearic Acid or oils with a high stearine content like Shea Butter, Cocoa Butter, Palm Kernel Oil and/or other oils that are firm at room temperature.

When using any new ingredients, we do recommend making test batches to make sure you like the ingredient. I hope this helps!

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About Andee

I'm a twenty something soap snob. I've grown up with hand made soaps and I love them! I really like making lotions, soaps and perfumes. I adore mixing scents to come up with something new. My favorite scent is either Wicked or Cotton Candy. I tend to hoard fragrances, I even have an Earl Grey Tea from the MMS catalog. I won't tell you how old it is, but it sure is good!


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29 thoughts on “Veggie Emulsifier Review & Comparision

  • andrea

    Good Morning Andee! I love posts like this one that explain how you can mix things up with other products! THANK YOU! May I ask for an explanation of the differences in the Emulsifying Wax and the Veggie Emulsifier? I am not familiar with either product 🙂 Are they both vegetable based? Do either of them have parabens? I would assume the Veggie Emulsifier does not have petroleum in it – does the wax? Those kinds of things would be super helpful 🙂

    THANK YOU!

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  • Neal

    Veggie emulsifier? I can’t wait to try some. Thanks for conducting a comparison. SOmetimes we don’t have all the ingredients or time needed to do an experiment like this one. Thanks again.

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  • Ana B

    Andee, I love it that you do test batches for us!! This is really helpful and makes buying the new products easier because we know what we’re getting. Thanks!!!

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  • Andee Post author

    The emulsifying wax is synthetic and the veggie emulsifier is vegetable derived. No parabens. The emulsifying wax is petroleum derived.

    Does this help?

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  • birdies

    I really need to try this emulsifier with my mango butter lotion.
    While I’m at it, it should work well with my hair conditioner recipe too.

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  • Trisha

    This sounds interesting! I am just looking into possibly making my own lotions so I’ll definitely have to keep this in mind. Thanks!

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  • Cheyenne

    “The emulsifying wax is synthetic and the veggie emulsifier is vegetable derived. No parabens. The emulsifying wax is petroleum derived.” – Andee

    WOW. I didn’t know that! That is so good to know! I usually use the em-wax at 5% in my lotions along with Stearic Acid. When I replace the em-wax with this emulsifier (because now I will) should I just keep everything the same but use this at 10%? Just wondered if you knew offhand… but I know testing is always best (and the most fun!). 🙂

    Thanks again!
    -Cheyenne

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    • Andee Post author

      Cheyenne,
      I would recommend making a test batch. You might use the same amount or increase it up to double. It emulsifies at the same percentages as the Emulsifying Wax, but it isn’t as thick. I wish I could be more help, but have fun testing!

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      • christina

        I would agree that you need to add twice as much veggie emulsifier as wax. I made two test batches last night, I just can’t get by the smell. I used orange 5 fold essential oil as scent in both batches and the veggie wax scent is SO strong. I am not normally so sensitive to smells. I would love to hear what other think about this please?

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        • Tina

          Certain products do have odors that carry through. Most often our association with odors is memory triggers and this can cause a pleasurable or un-pleasurable experience association. I do not care for the odor of the conditioning emulsifier. I also don’t like lavender, tea tree, rosemary or eucalyptus. I do like the Orange 5 Fold though!

          Generally we encourage you to let the mixture mellow for at least 24 hours before passing judgement. Time changes nearly everything.

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  • LuAnn

    So, this is still confusing. Your website lists the emulsifying wax as being vegetable derived fatty alcohols. Now that you have the veggie emulsifier, you’re saying that the other one is petroleum derived, even though it specifically says vegetable derived?

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    • Andee Post author

      Whoops! We had an error in the catalog and it has now been fixed. We appreciate the heads up on the description.

      The veggie emulsifier is from sugar beets, palm and coconut. The emulsifying wax is from petroleum – a synthetic source.

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  • Heather

    I’m so glad you tested this out for us! I saw the veggie emulsifier in the shop yesterday and was curious how it compared to E-wax. Thanks Andee! <3

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  • Caren

    So glad that you have tested this product, I never knew that there was something else out there that was veggie derived. Next time I place an order, hopefully sometime soon, I can get some of this and try it for myself. Thanks so much!!!

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  • Lori

    I Appreciate this post. Is the veggie emulsifier considered a “natural” product then? I have been thinking of venturing into lotions, but most of my customers balk at anything that isn’t natural.

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  • Leslie

    I’m really excited about the veggie emulsifier, while I’m not a vegetarian or vegan, I’ve been trying to keep my products vegan. I have a couple of customers who are looking for ‘fall flavored’ lip balms, do you have any flavors that you only offer seasonally? Specifically my customers would like something with pumpkin, apple or carmel.

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  • Kelly

    Very interesting! Thanks for this post! I did not realize that e-wax was petroleum-based – I plan to switch to the veggie emulsifier at my next order. Thanks for giving us the option 🙂

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  • Kelly

    I’ve used this emulsifier in a few batches now… Making the Aloe Butter Hand Cream on your site (except I always use Olive Butter place of the Aloe Butter.) Made the first batch with double the recipe quantity of emulsifier, and it was much thicker than when I make the cream with regular e-wax… so I mixed up another batch sans emulsifier, and combined the two, and it was great.
    Yesterday, I made the same recipe, substituting the veg emulsifier 1:1 for e-wax this time… and it was very thick! So made another half-batch sans emulsifier, and combined the two, and it seems to be good now… (so in the end used less veg. emulsifier than I usually use of e-wax). I’m puzzled.
    Does the stearic acid and the types of oils affect the veggie emulsifier’s performance?

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    • Tina

      This is typical of this batch. The veggie emulsifier and the conditioning emulsifier are both weaker than regular emulsifying wax. This recipe uses the Conditioning Emulsifier and so it would be well suited to a change to the Veggie Emulsifier. This cream is very thick and no adjustment would be needed to replace the Conditioning Emulsifier with Veggie Emulsifier. If you wish to use the regular Emulsifying Wax then we would decrease the amount of the emulsifier for the batch. You have 8.6% of items that would thicken this mixture in the Veggie Emulsifier and Stearic Acid. I would not increase either amount to use the Veggie Emulsifier. If I used the regular Emulsifying Wax I would decrease the emulsifier.

      Use of a hydrogenated oil such as olive will also increase the viscosity of the cream. This should be expected.

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    • Tina

      I will need to check. The buyer on this product is out right now but when she returns we will find an answer for you.
      Tina

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  • Bonnie Geyer

    I have found that the veggie emulsifier thins quite a bit with different fragrances and essential oils. A little extra stearic helped with this problem. However, since I sell quite a bit of unscented lotion which is now a bit too thick to start with, I have to measure out the amount needed and then add additional Aloe juice and a few extra drops of preservative. But—to have the all veggie emulsifier—-I’ll put up with a little extra work!
    Thank you Bonnie G

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  • Tamara

    Hi Andee, do you know the HLB of the Veggie Emulsifier?

    Thanks!

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    • Tina

      I am not sure. This isn’t something we generally track because it is an imperfect system. Anyone know of a perfect system? We don’t either!

      Tina

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