Comments on: Cold Process Soap, Day Five http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/ Thoughts and ideas from the world of Majestic Mountain Sage. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:20:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: bluebutterflz http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-867 bluebutterflz Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:18:26 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-867 Thank you. It's good to know that. I will remember that in future batches. Thank you. It’s good to know that. I will remember that in future batches.

]]> By: Andee http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-866 Andee Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:29:35 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-866 Pigments are used at a much higher rate than dyes. You won't color the bath tub or the skin with a pigment like this. Dyes are another thing. For a pigment, these we use to make swirl bars, it takes much more colorant than a dye. Pigments are used at a much higher rate than dyes. You won’t color the bath tub or the skin with a pigment like this. Dyes are another thing. For a pigment, these we use to make swirl bars, it takes much more colorant than a dye.

]]> By: bluebutterflz http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-865 bluebutterflz Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:35:29 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-865 I used about 2 - 2 1/2 TB of glycerin to about 1 TB purple pigment. Mixed well to remove clumps and then added to batch. So it wasn't diluted much when it was added. Before adding my color to the batch it was a lovely bold purple color and I was disappointed when it's ending color was a murkly gray with a slightly purple tint to it. I guess I just didn't think I would have to add soo much color to achieve what I wanted. Especially after seeing other recipes using color. Not to mention when I use natural colors I only use a small amount and achieve nice colors. Would adding color to my oils before mixing do anything different? I just want to make sure I get the most out of my pigment. I hate to use soo much that I dye skin or bath tubs, I used about 2 – 2 1/2 TB of glycerin to about 1 TB purple pigment. Mixed well to remove clumps and then added to batch. So it wasn’t diluted much when it was added. Before adding my color to the batch it was a lovely bold purple color and I was disappointed when it’s ending color was a murkly gray with a slightly purple tint to it.

I guess I just didn’t think I would have to add soo much color to achieve what I wanted. Especially after seeing other recipes using color. Not to mention when I use natural colors I only use a small amount and achieve nice colors. Would adding color to my oils before mixing do anything different? I just want to make sure I get the most out of my pigment. I hate to use soo much that I dye skin or bath tubs,

]]> By: Andee http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-864 Andee Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:34:28 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-864 What is the dilution rate of the color? Milk, palm and olive will all require extra color to be added. When adding color you can plan that what you see in the pot will be darker than the final bar of soap. So before pouring, decide if you want that color or if you want something darker. If you like blueish purples, you can add a bit of the ultramarine blue to the mix. This is like painting a room that has dark colored walls. We need to throw enough paint on the walls so we see only the new color, without enough paint it looks like mud. What is the dilution rate of the color?

Milk, palm and olive will all require extra color to be added.

When adding color you can plan that what you see in the pot will be darker than the final bar of soap. So before pouring, decide if you want that color or if you want something darker. If you like blueish purples, you can add a bit of the ultramarine blue to the mix. This is like painting a room that has dark colored walls. We need to throw enough paint on the walls so we see only the new color, without enough paint it looks like mud.

]]> By: bluebutterflz http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-863 bluebutterflz Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:56:16 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-863 I did use some Titanium Dioxide. I used about 1-1/2 TB of purple color on a 3lb batch of soap and about 1 ts of the Titanium Dioxide. How much would you suggest I use in a future batch? In this particular recipe ( a Lavender Cream) I used, goats milk, palm oil, coconut oil, olive oil, sunflower oil, castor oil, Hydronated soybean oil, deodorized cocoa butter, shea butter, & scent... It smells wonderful though. It would make for a great blog recipe! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I did use some Titanium Dioxide. I used about 1-1/2 TB of purple color on a 3lb batch of soap and about 1 ts of the Titanium Dioxide. How much would you suggest I use in a future batch?

In this particular recipe ( a Lavender Cream) I used, goats milk, palm oil, coconut oil, olive oil, sunflower oil, castor oil, Hydronated soybean oil, deodorized cocoa butter, shea butter, & scent… It smells wonderful though. It would make for a great blog recipe! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

]]> By: Andee http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-861 Andee Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:00:19 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-861 bluebutterflz, It is gray because too little was used. When you have oils that have their own color, palm and olive oils are common problems, then you need more color to cover. This is a pigment color and you must use enough to cover the other colors. A dye migrates through the product, a pigment will not. If you need to make the color pop out from the yellow oils, then use Titanium Dioxide. This white color makes all colors seem brighter. bluebutterflz,
It is gray because too little was used. When you have oils that have their own color, palm and olive oils are common problems, then you need more color to cover. This is a pigment color and you must use enough to cover the other colors. A dye migrates through the product, a pigment will not. If you need to make the color pop out from the yellow oils, then use Titanium Dioxide. This white color makes all colors seem brighter.

]]> By: bluebutterflz http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-859 bluebutterflz Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:58:25 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-859 Hi, I tried using your lavender fields color for the first time in my CP soap today. But I am pretty discouraged cause instead of it turning a lovely purple it turned a murky gray from the very start. Nothing I could do changed it either. What am I doing wrong? I probably ended up adding too much in the attempt to fix it. I added it to the batch after the lye and oils were mixed like I generally do with my natural colorants (Which turn out great) It's a shame too cause the entire batch minus the gloomy gray color turned out perfect! Have and suggestions? Hi,
I tried using your lavender fields color for the first time in my CP soap today. But I am pretty discouraged cause instead of it turning a lovely purple it turned a murky gray from the very start. Nothing I could do changed it either. What am I doing wrong? I probably ended up adding too much in the attempt to fix it. I added it to the batch after the lye and oils were mixed like I generally do with my natural colorants (Which turn out great) It’s a shame too cause the entire batch minus the gloomy gray color turned out perfect! Have and suggestions?

]]> By: Andee http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-86 Andee Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:14:03 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-86 moirakris, If you are planing on making lotion in the future, then we do recommend using a scale that has .1 gram readability. If this scale is only going to be used for 1 lb batches of soap, then I don't see the need for a scale that has the .1 gram readability. I hope this information has helped you. moirakris,
If you are planing on making lotion in the future, then we do recommend using a scale that has .1 gram readability. If this scale is only going to be used for 1 lb batches of soap, then I don’t see the need for a scale that has the .1 gram readability. I hope this information has helped you.

]]> By: Andee http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Andee Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:09:01 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-85 Julie, No, we don't have a set time table for melting oils in the microwave. I like to microwave each batch using short increments of time and then stirring. I keep doing that until the oils are completely melted. For your 40 oz batch, start with 2 minutes and then check the oils and decide from there. If you are unsure about how much time you need, feel free to microwave in 30 second or 1 minute intervals if that make you feel more comfortable. Julie,
No, we don’t have a set time table for melting oils in the microwave. I like to microwave each batch using short increments of time and then stirring. I keep doing that until the oils are completely melted.

For your 40 oz batch, start with 2 minutes and then check the oils and decide from there. If you are unsure about how much time you need, feel free to microwave in 30 second or 1 minute intervals if that make you feel more comfortable.

]]> By: moirakris http://blog.thesage.com/2009/02/27/cold-process-soap-day-five/comment-page-1/#comment-83 moirakris Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:27:17 +0000 http://blog.thesage.com/?p=1222#comment-83 Fantastic information in this series, thanks so much!! I have been wanting to try making cold proccess soap for awhile but I have been scared because I always heard it was so hard to do. I did have a question on weights/scales though. How important is accuraccy here, do I need a scale that does .01 grams? I will just be making 1 lb batches (like your test batches) and not huge amounts at a time Thanks again! Moira Fantastic information in this series, thanks so much!! I have been wanting to try making cold proccess soap for awhile but I have been scared because I always heard it was so hard to do. I did have a question on weights/scales though. How important is accuraccy here, do I need a scale that does .01 grams? I will just be making 1 lb batches (like your test batches) and not huge amounts at a time
Thanks again! Moira

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